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Posted 28 January 2009 - 04:43 PM

NATO:

Prefered Uniform for European scenario

US: OD 107 uniform, Woodland Camo.
UK: 68 pattern DPM, lightweights/ OG's
BW: BW Moleskin uniform

Prefered LBV:
US: ALICE, ALICE assault vest thing (cant remember the name)
UK: '58 pattern
BW: BW 1980s webbing

Acceptable alternative:

UK: DPM (S95)
BW: Generic OD uniform.

Acceptable Alt LBV:

US: M56, M68 webbing.
UK: 72 pattern Chest rigs
BW: BW webbing (dont know the actual name)

weapons:

M16 (no Rails)
M4 (no Rails)
M733
XM177
G3 series (no rails + no G3SAS)
HK33 series
FAL/SLR
FNC
FAMAS
Sig 550 series
M14 (no rails)
MP5 series (no Rails)
UZI
M60

SA80 (no rails)

Warsaw Pact:

Prefered Uniform:

Soviet: M69, KLMK, KZS. Soviet Gorka. Mabuta & Ttsko for VDV.
NVA: Strichtarn

Prefered LBV:

Soviet: 'M49' webbing, 6b2 & 6b3. RD-54 for VDV
NVA: Normal Webbing.

Acceptable Alternative:
Soviet: Splav VDV uniform, Ukrainian TTsKO, OD Gorka. Modern Klmk copies.

Acceptable Alt LBV:

Soviet: Chicom, Lifchik.
NVA: UTV webbing.

Weapons:

AKM/S
AK74/S (preferably wooden)
AKS74U
AK47/S
MPi series
SVD
RPK/S 47/74
PKM



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Posted 28 January 2009 - 05:01 PM

No G36c? unsure.gif sad.gif
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Posted 28 January 2009 - 05:48 PM

QUOTE (-=Pagey=- @ Jan 28 2009, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
No G36c? unsure.gif sad.gif


http://en.wikipedia....kler_&_Koch_G36

Came into service '97 a little late for the game really, the C variant IIRC was a little later than the original.

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 06:19 PM

i have noticed that the restrictions on weaponary are all for aeg's, is there any restrictions for bolt action sniper rifles and pistols?
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Posted 28 January 2009 - 07:11 PM

QUOTE (Mat @ Jan 28 2009, 05:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
http://en.wikipedia....kler_&_Koch_G36

Came into service '97 a little late for the game really, the C variant IIRC was a little later than the original.


Thats me out then sad.gif

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 07:26 PM

Bolt actions are bolt actions and if super modern just need skrimming up. Not much has changed from field bolt actions, the L96 is based on an earlier model...be fooked if I know what it was called though...anyone?

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Posted 28 January 2009 - 07:43 PM

PM Rifle, exactly the same gun, just the L96 is the British Army designation

http://en.wikipedia....ion_Marksman.29
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn06-e.htm
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 10:42 AM


This is a list to aspire to, rather than required?
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Posted 10 February 2009 - 11:16 AM

Well I guess the prefered options are to be aspired to; the acceptable alternatives being the minimum requirements.

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Posted 13 February 2009 - 11:01 AM

Currently acquiring my webbing (belt, yoke, VDV ammo pouch, grenade pouch & water bottle with holder) and I was wondering if those in the know (Jaager first and foremost as he's most active of the ruskies) is...
Can a RD-54 be worn with the classic webbing setup or do the pouches from the pack interfere with the pouches on the belt?



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Posted 13 February 2009 - 11:45 AM

QUOTE (Lardassmonkey @ Feb 10 2009, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well I guess the prefered options are to be aspired to; the acceptable alternatives being the minimum requirements.



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Posted 13 February 2009 - 12:20 PM

Well I have now aquired a US LBV 80's vintage (1988 I think) plus 5 ALICE clip mag and a water bottle pouch pouches of the same vintage to attach to it's belt.

AND a basic 58 pattern belt and harness set pouches

Just need to get an 80's US top and bottoms and I'm ready to rock (almost) as either, already have brit camo pre S95.

I do have a couple of questions:

Where is a good place to get some US woodland camo of the period, and what are my options for "soft" head gear for 80's US special forces? (dont want helmets)

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Posted 13 February 2009 - 01:52 PM

Ebay you can get some original bits,if you don't like wearing helmets, the bonnie is your best bet,theres 2 sorts ,large rim and small,if you want the helmet (m1)just use the liner and put the camo cover on it,it will be alot lighter for your head.
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Posted 14 February 2009 - 09:49 PM

Theres also the BDU cap

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Posted 24 February 2009 - 01:40 PM

Right here we are - Rowly's "dirt cheap" Soviet kit for Retro!

This was all bought from 'Vladimirbest' on ebay. The guy doesn't know the proper names for what he sells or doesn't know the english translations so do some research first!
Check out the forum at www.red-alliance.net (I think Jaager linked to it before for the Redmist game but I can't find that post, sorry). The guys there know a lot of stuff and just by reading it I learned a lot.

So on with the show.

1x Ukranian TTsKO (jacket and pants) $27.99 (Given the chance a second time I wouldn't have bought this set and would have chosen the khaki that he offers for even cheaper or even a KZS-1 for $24.99 - probably both as the KSZ1 is worn over the top of other stuff)
1x Soviet rubberised canvas belt $3.99
1x Soviet rubberised canvas y-straps $4.99
1x Soviet canvas double grenade pouch $4.99 (came with a free plastic bottle for oil haha)
1x Soviet water flask and carrier $4.99
1x Soviet VDV magazine pouch (4xak74 mags) $8.99

Total excluding postage $55.94 (postage was a flat $40 which ain't that cheap admittedly). So the most expensive part of this whole endeavor was the postage which unfortunately I didn't even know about until I'd committed to buying but they, them's the breaks!

For a laugh I'm gonna give this get-up a whirl this Saturday at Tudd's and see how well it all works (with the addition of a black canvas shoulder bag as a dump bag).

Non of this forms an impression per se but hey, I won't look a little bit more in period than not!

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 07:47 PM

QUOTE (Rowly @ Feb 13 2009, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Currently acquiring my webbing (belt, yoke, VDV ammo pouch, grenade pouch & water bottle with holder) and I was wondering if those in the know (Jaager first and foremost as he's most active of the ruskies) is...
Can a RD-54 be worn with the classic webbing setup or do the pouches from the pack interfere with the pouches on the belt?



the Rd 54 can be worn with the webbing belt and pouches, but the RDs straps replace the Y-harness. also the RD has mag and grenade pouches already.

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Posted 27 February 2009 - 11:37 PM

See that was my thought behind that... Move from the classic setup that can carry 2grenades and 4 magazines to another setup that includes a backpack and can carry 2 grenades and 2 magazines. I have to admit, I just don't get the idea in removing combat load but meh, don't think i'm even gonna try and get hold of a RD54 anymore - seems like they are getting as rare as rocking horse poop and those that occasionally pop up are going for silly money.

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Posted 02 May 2009 - 04:55 PM

I want to go down the Desert Choc-Chip route.

The camo i can get hold of but webbing wise would this be ok?

Tac Vest - yay or nay?

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Posted 02 May 2009 - 06:14 PM

A bit confusing mate... You want to wear Desert Choc Chip (US stuff) and mix it with a British desert recent assault vest? Just checking cos I'm not quite sure what you're wanting to do?

EDIT: Re-reading I think that you are meaning to wear a brit-kit over US. I would suggest that you choose one nation and stick with that mate rather than mixing and matching.

Something like this set here might work out better mate. You'd be best talking with Iceman5x5 in regards to what the US guys wore. I would assume it would be straight ALICE webbing or the ALICE-LBV (and improved version). I wouldn't know where to find that though cos I've been looking for Soviet and East German gear only wink.gif

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Posted 02 May 2009 - 10:02 PM

Cheers Rowly

And yes i was gonna mix and match a little but im gonna do a bit of shopping around first biggrin.gif
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