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#1 Staceh

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 12:36 PM

I'm thinking about coming along to a cold war game (have been for a long time).

I've 58' (arrgh)
I've various sets of DPM, including forerunners to S95

However weapon wise I'm limited a little.

My M4 is covered in rails, so that leaves the SA80a2, would this be acceptable?
The only real external differences are the magazine catch guard, and the shape of the cocking handle. (SUSAT was issue to both?)

Locaps are not a problem, I've literally boxes of the bloomin' things from various events, pistols fine got a 1911 kicking around.


I see the next event is for 'plain clothes SAS', so assuming I get into that group, whats the score uniform and weapon wise.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 12:46 PM

SA80s were introduced into the British army in 1985, which is a couple of years later on from the games we normally do, however I doubt that would be a massive problem to folks? Most of the brits have SLRs or M16s.

As for Black Gold, 'plain clothes' SAS could be anything, I'm imagining that they would have probably worn similar attire to the locals in order to blend in whilst rallying the troops. :)

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 01:03 PM

Sa80's too new old bean though if you can get some rail covers you could get away with the M4 failing that sniper tape or some scrim over the rails just to cover them up should be okay or if i can ever get my G3 running you could borrow that.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 01:23 PM

Yeah Likewise, I have a set of XM177 plastic handguards that you could put on to replace the rail set. Then just chuck on the carry handle.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 01:47 PM

I have some spare ICS M4 plastic handguards you could borrow replace the rails.
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 01:53 PM

AS for weapons and loadout for the SAS in black gold i would probably go along with this http://www.eliteukfo...hostage-rescue/ Local clothing but equipped with MP5's grenades and a pistol. not sure about webbing probably just 58 webbing over the top of whatever your wearing.

or theres a weapons list here
http://www.eliteukfo...ervice/weapons/
aside from the C8 carbine the, colt commando, L96,AW50,HK417,L115 and the G36 i believe everything else is viable for the 80's.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 02:15 PM

webbing is a tricky one though, back in the 80s NATO had to have positive deniability for having troops on the ground. A local wearing standard issue british webbing may raise a few eyebrows from the stooges operating in country (on both sides) :D

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 02:34 PM

Some of the SAS did wear plain clothes in some missions,blend with there surroudings and sometimes only used weapons which was available ie ak47s etc.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 03:54 PM

webbing is a tricky one though, back in the 80s NATO had to have positive deniability for having troops on the ground. A local wearing standard issue british webbing may raise a few eyebrows from the stooges operating in country (on both sides) :D


The great thing about the Cold War series of games though is that it's all kicked off in Europe, so Plausible deniability goes out of the window, and so 58 pattern is fine.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 04:29 PM

Yup, the list i read stated the L85a1 was fine, hence me pointing out the very minor cosmetic differences between the a1 and a2.

I'd have thought they'd use something with a little more thump than a mp5 in a outdoorsie country like afghanistan?

So basically, comfy civvies, and issue loadbearing

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 04:50 PM

Basically mate aye. I think if I go i'll be going Brit, so thinking SLR, 58 webbing and some desert friendly / local looking jacket and trousers. I'll try and get hold of the clansman radios too.

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 05:07 PM

Stace, your sorted....you can borrow my UZI!!
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 05:12 PM

lol there you go mate, problem solved :P

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 05:20 PM

Uzi?

I've got pistols bigger than that thing :)

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 05:27 PM

i think josh feeds it steroids when no ones looking tis an amazing gun ;)

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 05:56 PM

Yea Uzi's are a good gun great range for the fps they have.
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Posted 22 February 2012 - 06:12 PM

and besides it's not always about size

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Posted 22 February 2012 - 06:14 PM

let me guess its how u use it :D
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Posted 23 February 2012 - 09:12 AM

The great thing about the Cold War series of games though is that it's all kicked off in Europe, so Plausible deniability goes out of the window, and so 58 pattern is fine.

Aye, point well made!

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Posted 23 February 2012 - 11:07 AM

The list has an L85 in as it was lifted straight from the Eastwind guide. The trouble is that is set in 89 whilst our games are set in 83 so there are a few discrepancies. It needs updating (or down dating?) really. Something we talked about but never actually got around to doing.




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